PREWAR “O” GAUGE TINPLATE, BOXCARS, EARLY, No. 800, No. 820



Lionel Early Box Cars

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Lionel No. 800 Box Cars

Lionel No. 820 Box Cars


Lionel No. 800 Box Cars

General Information

The Lionel No. 800 Box Cars were introduced in 1915 and were issued through 1926. The No. 800 Box Cars have a four-wheel frame, tongue and slot couplers, and no journals. The No. 800 Box Cars measure 5 3/4-inches in length. The box car bodies and roofs were typically painted a single color, but some of the earliest box cars had a contrasting roof color. The frame was always black. The cars had sliding doors that opened and have a handle that was stamped into the right side of the door. The door guides were inside the car. The car road name, number and other information was rubber stamped on the sides, end, and underside of the car.

Variations of the No. 800 Box Cars include different colors for the body and roof. The earliest box cars had a dark maroon roof and maroon painted door handles. The cars also came in different shades of orange. The box cars came in Wabash and Pennsylvania road names. There are also variations in the type and location of the rubber stamped number and other information.


Lionel No. 800 Box Cars

1. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Wabash road name and are numbered “6399”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

2. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have large stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “6399”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

3. No. 800 Box Car in orange with maroon roof (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

4. No. 800 Box Car in green (1915-1916). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

5. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1918). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

6. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1920-1925). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

7. No. 800 Box Car in orange with orange roof (1920-1925). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

8. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1925-1926). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped under the doors on the sides of the car. The cars have ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


1. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Wabash road name and are numbered “6399”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


2. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have large stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “6399”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


3. No. 800 Box Car in orange with maroon roof (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.


4. No. 800 Box Car in green (1915-1916). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “No. 800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


5. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1918). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


6. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1920-1925). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


7. No. 800 Box Car in orange with orange roof (1920-1925). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped on one end and ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


8. No. 800 Box Car in light orange with light orange roof (1925-1926). The cars have small stamped Penn R.R. road name and are numbered “4862”. The cars have “800” rubber stamped under the doors on the sides of the car. The cars have ”Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


Lionel No. 820 Box Cars

General Information

The Lionel No. 820 Box Cars were introduced in 1915 and were issued through 1926. The No. 820 Box Cars typically have tongue and slot couplers, but the last ones produced had latch couplers. The No. 820 Box Cars measure 7 1/4-inches in length. The box car bodies and roofs were typically painted a single color, but some of the earliest box cars had a contrasting roof color. The frame was always black. The cars had sliding doors that opened and have a handle that was stamped into the right side of the door. The door guides were inside the car. The car road name, number and other information was rubber stamped on the sides, end, and underside of the car.

Variations of the No. 820 Box Cars include different colors for the body and roof. The earliest box cars had a dark maroon roof and maroon painted door handles. The cars also came in different shades of orange. The box cars came in Illinois Central, A.T. & S.F., and Union Pacific road names. There are also many variations in the type, size, and location of the rubber stamped number and other information.


Lionel No. 820 Box Cars

1. No. 820 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

2. No. 820 Box Car in orange (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

3. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1916-1917). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

4. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1917-1918). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

5. No. 820 Box Car in dark olive (1917-1918). The cars have the A.T. & S.F. road name and are numbered “48522”. The cars have “820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

6. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1918-1920). The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED

7. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1920-1923). The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “820” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

8. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1924-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

9. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1924-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped in the lower left corner of the sides of the car and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

10. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1925-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped in the lower left corner of the sides of the car and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car. The cars have latch couplers.

PHOTOS NEEDED


1. No. 820 Box Car in light orange with maroon roof (1915). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


2. No. 820 Box Car in orange (1915-1916). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


3. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1916-1917). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have four lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


4. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1917-1918). The cars have maroon painted door handles. The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “No. 820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.


5. No. 820 Box Car in dark olive (1917-1918). The cars have the A.T. & S.F. road name and are numbered “48522”. The cars have “820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end. There is no stamping on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


6. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1918-1920). The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “820” and “Lionel Lines / N.Y. / Made in U.S.A.” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.

PHOTOS NEEDED


7. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1920-1923). The cars have the Illinois Central road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have two lines of data under the number on the sides of the car. The cars have “820” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


8. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1924-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped on one end and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


9. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1924-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped in the lower left corner of the sides of the car and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car.


10. No. 820 Box Car in light orange (1925-1926). The cars have the Union Pacific road name and are numbered “65784”. The cars have “820” rubber stamped in the lower left corner of the sides of the car and “Made in U.S.A. / The Lionel Corporation / New York” stamped on the underside of the car. The cars have latch couplers.

PHOTOS NEEDED


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